- Pick out one quote that was significant to you. Explain it and why it was significant.
- What biases did you have, for or against the subject, while reading this text? When did you become aware of it and did it hinder your evaluating the text in an objective way?
- What ideas were you unfamiliar with from the text and how did you approach that information?
- Pose one question you have about the text. Then, attempt to answer someone else's question.
- Respond to one other student's post by either adding to it or politely refuting their ideas.
Tuesday, November 9, 2010
She Works, They're Happy
After reading the article, "She Works, They're Happy," answer the following questions. Responses should be a minimum of 5-7 sentences.
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1. "I picked him not because I needed a meal ticket, but because I liked the fact that he respected me and had no problem sharing the responsibilites of daily life with me."
ReplyDeleteWomen now-a-days don't need men for supportment because they are bettering themselves by goin to school. Also aren't afraid of getting jobs with better pay then some men. They can choose a spouse on how he repects her. Also a man that doesnt have a problem with everyday life activities.This was significant to me because I'm a women and attending college to better mayslef. It's not like in the 1950s that women needed to marry for support. The man the was sole provider and the women played the house wife role.
The quote that I like the best is "women no longer need to marry up educationally or economically,so they are more likely to pick men who support a more egalitarian relationship".I feel that this quote is very true because, women have more education now and they want a guy that support them in what they do, and give them more attention. They don't need those guys that work 15 hours a day, instead of men focusing on work, work, work, they have more time to focus on thier woman. That why women don't mind having a partner that make less then them.
ReplyDelete1. “Women no longer need to marry up educationally or economically, so they are more likely to pick men who support a more egalitarian relationship”. I liked this quote because it makes a lot of sense to me after thinking about it. If we go back in time when women only role was to take care of their husband and children because they weren’t allowed to work in high income jobs, those jobs were always taken by the men. Nowadays women have more freedom when choosing what to do with their lives, and of course opt for an academic job, ( the ones only men used to have), with high income there’s no need of trading love for necessity. What this phrase means is that now that men and women are more prone to have an equal financial health, there are more space open for other thing like love, caring and mutual respect.
ReplyDelete1)“Today men need their wives income” it’s ironic how not to long ago men where in a shell pretending to believe that all we were good for was taking care of our home and barring children. It’s nice to see them acknowledge us as smart independent human beings. That can provide for our family we taught them a valuable lesson. We taught them that we can be the breadwinners as well. That it’s not only up to them to bring home the bacon that were both equally responsible for taking care of our home.
ReplyDelete1. "In many ways women are their own worst enemies- we want men to do it, but we want to tell them how they should do it"
ReplyDeleteThis is significant to me because it is true. Women want to do both. We want to work and get credit for bringing in the money and we want our husbands to do the housework and our usual home tasks like we would do them.
“I picked him not because I needed a meal ticket, but because I liked the fact that he respected me and had no problem sharing the responsibilities of daily life with me. More and more women now are able to make those choices.” This quote was very significant to me because I can relate to this quote in some ways but only because I like the way the author put it. Its important to me because I respect the person im with because that person is capable of dealing with the same responsibilities as I do. Its pretty hard to find a “MALE or FEMALE” like this nowadays, so when you see those characteristics in a person just go for it.
ReplyDelete2. My biases was for this article. I've always been aware of this subject of women taking on the role of bringing in the money and men staying home. I did not take this in an objective matter matter because you see more ofthis everyday. We don't live in ancient times where the men were the ones who provided. In this day an age the economy doesn't give us the luxury of having only one provider. Some house holds need the two incomes.
ReplyDelete1. One quote that I thought was significant to me was “the rise of wives” the reason being is that now when you walk into a college class room more than half of the class are women, working moms or just women trying to better themselves. This way they won’t have to depend on a male to bring in the money to support their families they know that they can do it on their own.
ReplyDelete2. Even though the whole “women with more economical power than men” issue was and still is polemic, I wasn’t bother at all for anything in the text. Years ago this same topic would have lit the flame of most of the men, and I mean years ago, when women were considered decorations for the house; but society has changed, we are more open to listen to other opinions and women have stood forward for their rights, hence today’s society is more open minded and balanced. The text also is well presented and it doesn’t go hostile versus any gender in any moment and also support facts politely.
ReplyDeleteI am “FOR” this subject because it is very nice to see a couple work and balance out their everyday lives. Through the start of the text I didn’t expect it to turn out the way it did until I got to the end, thats when I became aware of the situation and how the husband turned out to be understanding and helpful towards his wife and kids.
ReplyDelete3. I did not have trouble with the ideas in this article. Everything that was written was self explanatory. In no way was it a hard text to understand. It got to the point and the title itself gave the idea of what it was about.
ReplyDeleteI understood most of this text but i really do agree on the quote "empathis guy who does house work and parenting, but how much pride can I take in that" Men take alot of pride in work and brining bread to the household and sometime their pride takes over them, it is harder to switch role in a men point of view then in women. Men do not want to be call househusbands, so for men is not much pride in taking care of the household and the children.
ReplyDelete2)I’m one hundred percent forward it. I believe a marriage should be based on team work always. It shouldn’t matter who brings what home as long as their able to provide for their love ones. I’ve always been aware of this matter and thank God people are coming out of their shell and facing reality. I’ve always felt this way maybe because all my life I’ve been surrounded by women who don’t depend on no one but themselves. So I really don’t think there’s a job set for either sex nor female or male. They’re both capable of fulfilling each other’s shoes weather their willing to that’s a different story.
ReplyDelete2. I am for the most part for the idea. I have worked all my life while still raising my children and taking care of the household. I find it refreshing to find that men can take the role of the houseperson and let the wife be the main breadwinner of the family. I knew that I would like the article from when I saw the title.
ReplyDeleteI do not believe that it jaded my opinion of the text at all. I believe that both ways of living arrangements have valid points but I tend to support the idea of the wife working while dad is at home much more. It is not the traditional way of thinking and teaches children the value of having both parents be well educated and willing to take on both roles as an example for their future.
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ReplyDelete4. Why do you think men still think of themselves as the money makers even though the women is making more money then they are?
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I completely understood the subject, I was very familiar with what the author is stating, therefore I don’t have anything to say about this. But im unfamiliar with Betty Friedan and her motives urging women to leave their homes and pursue careers that they wanted. The way I approached this was by looking up some information about Betty Friedan and saw that Betty passed away in 2006, she lived a very active life, she was an activist and feminist.
ReplyDelete3)I was unfamiliar with the percentage of women’s financial independency. And also the divorce rate there is when a woman is financially independent. It came to a shock for me to see how things have changed from the 1970’s to the present day. It really shows us how we grow and change throughout time.
ReplyDelete3. I was unfamiliar with where the author states:
ReplyDelete"While the changing economic roles of husbands and wives may take some getting used to, the shift has had a surprising effect on marital stability. Over all, the evidence shows that the shifts within the marriagess - men taking on more housework and women earning more outside the home - have had a positive effect, contributing to lower divorce rates and happier unions." This surprised me because the majority of the couples I know a man is still threatened when the women can and does make more. I thought that for sure the rate of separation or divorce would have increased.
1)The quote that was significant to me was the one that read ‘the changing roles in marriage often aren’t what many couples plan, but instead are a reaction to unexpected financialpressures. Well this quote really got my attention cause it just proves the statement that women start
ReplyDeleteworking when theirs problems in your relationship and only then does do roles changes well it’s stated here like that I beg to defer that not necessarily something bad has to happen in order for a change in roles it’s about helping each other in life and their future it’s about team work their married and if they choice to unite as a whole so be it then it all comes to place all work and all is love. So it just goes to show marriage it’s just a cover up for the true word of marriage isn’t what all things they make believe they are a whole but, in the true meaning they just are another pair of partners living in unity free as will.
2)Well I can start telling you all ready that I am happy to see people think and see that work in a family is not only a man’s work and that due to they got married they are a family and as such they help each other that’s why they decide to make it formal. So I am in favor for their in a relationship for both wife and husband to work but, with conditions that they get part-time and in order for their kids to be with both of the parents if possible it’s not whop has them but who raises them that really counts. Also I’ve seen both in favor and against it why cause many men think they have controlled of everything in their life and family when they are 2 in the relationship not one some I have seen that just for being a man think they should work and women only kids and husband I do agree when some of it cause women are for loving and caring not getting dirty or exhausted they should be women of home but if their problems then they should talk it out and both work if possible. So that’s why reading this made no change but enforced my point of view so I can know think clearly about the fact the women have the right to work as men to work to they have equally rights and as part of a relationship they have a family to be with.
ReplyDelete4. How do you think that a man in a role reversal position would teach his son how to be a man in today's world?
ReplyDelete3)Well I shouldn’t say that I was unfamiliar with all but I was with some facts that they say about wives being now the primary breadwinner in 22 percent of couples, up from 7 percent in 1970. Also that widely believed that w woman’s financial independence increased her rick for divorce, divorce rates in the united sates tell a different story. Well I approach it like I would to a soccer ball coming directly to me fast and carful well I think that life its self has complicated things and women is one of them to men due to the fact men think that they only have the right to work to be the man in the house it’s true to some extent well are you alone in a marriage or are married with yourself that you can command somebody to do what you want well NO. So I think this is from some selfish guy that only think for the benefit of himself what if he dies and only he worked and didn’t let he’s wife work and she being so dependent of a guy what well she do go to another guy or what so I think that both should work don’t let the old ways make you take somebody’s help for granted.
ReplyDeleteANSWER TO "JVACCARO"
ReplyDeleteI think that men still look at themselves as money makers because thats how we were raised and acknowledged back then. No matter if the women is making more money, its just that men are the ones who i think spend more money, making that look like they make more money. <-- my opinion.
4) I wonder how come males didn't grow out of their shell before? How come it took them this long to realize how hard our job is weather to stay home with the kids or provide for our family?
ReplyDelete5. To what M Lopez says:
ReplyDeleteThe quote that I like the best is "women no longer need to marry up educationally or economically,so they are more likely to pick men who support a more egalitarian relationship".I feel that this quote is very true because, women have more education now and they want a guy that support them in what they do, and give them more attention. They don't need those guys that work 15 hours a day, instead of men focusing on work, work, work, they have more time to focus on thier woman. That why women don't mind having a partner that make less then them.
I do not think that it is so much that we don't mind that they make less. I think that in today's world the women are stronger and are happy just to find a man that is not intimidated by a women making more money. Not to mention the fact that they actually can find a man in todays society that actually wants to work. It gives some sort of an equal balance.
4) Why do you think is what makes a guy mad the fact that they are being put down or the fact that their toughness and smartness is put to jeopardy?
ReplyDeleteQUESTION: If you can put yourself into MR. or MRS. Walder's shoes, would your views be the same or opposite towards theirs.
ReplyDeleteI was unfamiliar with that men who don't have jobs have more health issues, then mean that do have job are better health wise.I feel that maybe it causes theystress and it makes them worry in how to not only provide for them self but if they have a family, in how they will provide for them as well.Stress causelot of problem as well it can affected you in all ways in your life.
ReplyDelete2. This article really didn’t tell me anything I already don’t know because in the present time we are living in now in many homes have been forced with making the decision of having a stay home dad although they don’t agree with it. I personally don’t think there’s anything wrong with the women being the money maker but some people may not agree with it and think that under no circumstances the male is to be home doing house chores because that’s the women’s place.
ReplyDelete5)Why do you think men still think of themselves as the money makers even though the woman is making more money than they are? I believe that as long as their bringing some money in their satisfy. They feel like they're fulfilling their purpose as the alpha male. Because that’s how some men think of themselves as the protector and providers of their family. That’s why is so hard for the majority of men to stay home barring the children while the wife brings in the bacon because its demining to them.
ReplyDelete1)I picked this quote "In many ways women are their own enemies-we want men to housework, but we want to tell them how they should do it”. This happens in my house, my mother wants my father to make dinner but just like she does it. My father has little patience so he usually gets pissed when she is all demanding. Including me, when I make dinner I get some sort of critics from my mother. My mother can piss any one when she acts like that. When my mom does house work she doesn’t like to get any bad comments from anyone. This quote reminds me of those epic parts of my life.
ReplyDelete2)My biases are for it, because women are actually improving through time. Nowadays some women are working harder to improve their skills. More surprising is that in this article says that women are paying the bills and working hard while their husband stays at home doing housework. It was interesting to know that some woman actually are not interested in marring some guy with money but instead they want a man that can gives support and can cooperate with her. This article almost makes it look like if woman wants to be the boss in the house instead of men.
ReplyDeleteAs a "man" would you be capable to accept the change of duties?
ReplyDelete3)An unfamiliar idea will be the one that said “after Ms. Walder comes back to the house after working she still has to do some house work”. I believe that her husband is just not helping too much. I know that if I come back from work and dinner is not ready or there is a mess in the house ill get pissed. Probably her husband is just too lazy to do all the house work. I believe no women will appreciate to work extra time at home while their husband is just relaxing.
ReplyDelete3. I’m still unfamiliar with something, in the third page it says that because a pair of children that came out unexpected one of them had to leave a job. Why? How much does it cost to have someone take care of their children? Was it really necessary to cut the family income to half? And most of all, does people never work for their dreams rather than for money? Of course I know that it can be bigger necessities to leave a job, like being fired due to the recession, but, I don’t see how someone can drop his job if it is a one he love.
ReplyDelete4. This question may not be directly associated with the text but I would love to hear other opinions.
What type of all-life job would you choose, the one you dream for, where you feel comfortable doing it, have fun and like it, or the a job focuses in money, where you gain a lot of money to support you and your family, even if you hate it.?
4)Do women actually prefer changing roles with men in their marriage?
ReplyDelete5. Adding to dianela answer.
ReplyDeleteMen and women are both equal in the sense that we can both work and take care of the house and children. Also there is the respect when the roles are turned and we see how are both jobs are.
5) Answering to the question of jvaccaro about men still think of themselves as the money makers even though the women are making more money than they are?
ReplyDeleteI think it all had to do with the way they were raised and their surroundings if they were around guys who treated women like less than them then they got that idea and position that women are less then guys. So it’s about the way they lived and were thought to see women as that as home women’s that only and they their only work was to attend them and their husbands and not go out and be always to be with their man.
answer to daniela question
ReplyDeleteI feel that man are more open minded now because their are more mother out there that teach men that they have to be equal in a marrige, and that it is ok let the women take the lead role on breadwinners.
Y. Thalman said...
ReplyDelete4. How do you think that a man in a role reversal position would teach his son how to be a man in today's world?
I was asking myself the same question, i think that in this new age, fathers shouldn't use the same ol-fashion "you are going to be the man of the house and provider for your future family" and adapt to this new generation way of thinking,
1. Pick out one quote that was significant to you. Explain it and why it was significant.
ReplyDelete“I picked him not because I needed a meal ticket, but because I liked the fact that he respected me and had no problem sharing the responsibilities of daily life with me. More and more women now are able to make those choices.”
This quote is perfectly worded as if I wrote it myself. Basically stating how she did not need to marry her husband for money or a free ride but married him because he suited her needs.
I am lucky enough to marry for love and not money. Picking a partner that supports you emotionally is far better than someone who will support you financially but not emotionally.
2.What biases did you have, for or against the subject, while reading this text? When did you become aware of it and did it hinder your evaluating the text in an objective way?
ReplyDeleteMy bias is for women working outside the home. I started to read the article and recognized it once I read “Was a financially successful woman a threat to her husband or a relief?” Right there I felt a bit of rage! How could a woman working to help support her family be a threat to her husband? Women have been working outside the home for many years now. As the times change and the economy gets worse there is less stay at homes and more woman working.
3.What ideas were you unfamiliar with from the text and how did you approach that information?
ReplyDeleteWhat exactly do they mean by “the rise of wives”? Does that mean wives did not count before or does it mean the rise of wives working outside the home? I wanted to know exactly how to interpret this text so I googled it.
Then I went to the website (http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1466/economics-marriage-rise-of-wives) and determined"the rise of wives” meant as in education and working outside the home.
4.“Sociologists and economists say that financially independent women can be more selective in marrying, and they have more negotiating power within the marriage.”
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think that financially independent women can be more selective? Do you think that financially dependent women will marry just for money?
5.jvaccaro said... Why do you think men still think of themselves as the money makers even though the woman is making more money than they are?
ReplyDeleteI think it depends on how the man is raised. Some men are bought up to believe they are the bread winner and the woman’s place is in the home. However, now a day’s most families have to rely on two incomes to financially survive. But men still have a mental block how they should be making more than their wives.