- Pick out one quote that was significant to you. Explain it and why it was significant.
- What biases did you have, for or against the subject, while reading this text? When did you become aware of it and did it hinder your evaluating the text in an objective way?
- What ideas were you unfamiliar with from the text and how did you approach that information?
- Pose one question you have about the text. Then, attempt to answer someone else's question.
Tuesday, September 21, 2010
Harvest of Anger
Answer the following questions based on the reading, Harvest of Anger, in 4-6 sentences and then respond to 2 of your peers for a total of 6 posts.
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1. What was left, and now feeds national anger, was a harsh quest to keep house , habits and hope in tact while the now bailed-out fat cats who'd invented securitized mortgages sloped off into the sunset, and veterans, scarred from faraway wars, limped back to the "homeland," once just home. Inequality sharpened. American promise, for many soured.
ReplyDeleteAmericans have been hit with so much in these past years. Dealing with all sorts of money issues. Our government has promised to help out with the rising of mortgages and rent, but in the sense haven't done so. How do they expect for us to believe in them if they haven't done anything to help out. The wealthy live the good life when the middle class has to suffer. While our government gves money to other countires instead of helping their own country. Veterans come home with issues, just to be home to deal with more. Instead of coming back home and being treated as the hero's that they are.
2. I was for this article because it dealt with cultures and beliefs in general dealing with anger. In one part it dealt with why we as Americans are angry. Dealing with so much in our economy for the past nine years. To top it off wanting to build a major Islamic center so near ground zero. This just brings back the pain this country and numerous families went through nine years ago. It's bring those feeling back and like a slep to the face for us. It's not being discriminating because they can do it somewhere else, its just having some consideration of the families that lost loved one on that day on 9/11
ReplyDelete3. The ideas that i was unfamiliar with weren't that many. In this sort of problem i read the whole sentence and the contents around it to understand what i dont.
ReplyDelete4. What makes it even a consideration for a major Islamic center to be put near ground zero?
ReplyDelete1. "Images of the islam's holy book in flames in northwest Gainsville would have enreaged Muslims and become a powerful recruitment tool for the very jihadist who attemt to sactify indiscriminate violence through selective references tot he koran" This quote was significant to me because it showed that if the holy koran was to be burned it would've gave islamics another reason to feel as if they arent being truly accepted in america, and are being disrespected on their believes. I think that if the holy korans was to be turned in flames on September 11, 2010 there wouldve been a huge concern on another terrorist attack on american soil.
ReplyDelete2. Reading threw the article I came across this statement. "But Nor do I see the projects as a test of american religious freedoms", I strongly disagree with this statement. I think islamics are! trying to test American religious freedoms by trying to build a mosque close to groundzero. Just think about what would happen if they are declined the right to do so. Islamics would use this as a excuse to feel declined in the states and to demostrate that America's religious freedoms are false!
3. I was unfamiliar with the idea that says "Islam is easily manipulated by those who would cast it as enemy". I dont think Islam is being completely manipulated by those who cast it as enemy because islam is currently on war with them.
4. How would you think american citizens would react and approach a mosque being built next to ground zero?
1.)"Only a spark, it seems, separates resentment from uprising", I pick up this phrase because of its meaning, of course it literally refers to a spark, but I noticed how it could be related to the entire text in the way that something small and apparently harmless as a spark, can become a huge consuming fire that ends out devouring everything, including the one who start the spark. In the same way I feel about the Muslim actions, they fund their idea of building a mosque, in the rights of Americans, they see it like a spark among the dark, that will warm and guide the heart of the people, however, that little and harmless spark it is seen like an insult of the very American principle that they are trying to reflect.
ReplyDelete2.) I didn’t found anything that could alter the way I see the article, not even the fact of the 9/11, I don’t want to be seen as someone insensible, but, the thing is that, even knowing and understanding the tragedy and the problems American have and are still suffering, I can’t imagine the pain and the sorrow of the people affected for these issues, that’s why I don’t feel them like mine, I don’t feel like I lost a part of my identity.
3.) I was unfamiliar with all the issues regarding the problems triggered from the 9/11 attacks, seeing this country as the place where all people is free and successful, it was shocking to read about the shattering of the own American people and their ideals, it is kind of depressing knowing that there’s no place on Earth where full happiness and safety can be achieved.
4.) Would you have burn the Koran, why?
1." The mosque project near ground zero upholds a great American principle, but it's not a sensible idea. Good sense is needed when a harvest of anger is in."
ReplyDeleteAfter having re-read this article I find value in the above statement. The American principle this holds is "Freedom of Religion" and yes for this reason alone as Americans we should not be upset for the idea of an Islamic Center. However, we also do have "Freedom of Speech" and with this comes the idea the we as an American people also have the right to speak out whether it be for or against something. In this particular case we as a people seem to be against it. This is not just about the principle of freedom .. this is a moral issue. One that has hit us in our heart of hearts. These are the memories of over 5000 thousand lives and the lives of the families and friends involved. The building of the Mosque/Islamic Center is in very poor taste and disrespectful to all who perished.. it simply should not be allowed to happen. This is why the anger is harvested.
2. The biases I have on the topic are so many that it is difficult to just pick one. I knew from the start that this was an article that would and did upset me. Due to the fact that I have, myself, so much anger at the idea of the mosque my opinion from the start was already jaded. I have a strong sense of disbelief at the idea that this was even allowed to put out on the table to begin with. There should have been stipulations made from the very start at what would be allowed to be built on the property of the Twin Towers. This is one factor that should have not been missed. Being that this is such an upsetting topic for me it definately did hinder my objectiveness from the start.
ReplyDelete3. " I went to Auschwitz 12 years ago to cover the story of a burgeoning field of crosses outside the death camp put there by Catholic protesters. Their tone was ugly but it was hard to agrue with them: Close to 100,000 non-Jewish Poles had died in the camp, a number dwarfed by the Jewish dead, but not insignificant.
ReplyDeleteI was unfamiliar with the information above. The only thing I could think of at the moment was how horrible that must have been. I don't have an opinion on this because the similarity to 9/11 is disheartening. Here we have a people that were tortured due to the religious beliefs they have and in 9/11 more innocent people died because of the religious beliefs of others. How ironic is this? Has history repeated itself in a different fashion?
4. What good (if any) do you believe having an Islamic Center on ground zero bring? Why?
ReplyDelete5. In answer to Negdo Mesa's question. "Would you burn the Koran?" No, I would not. "Why?" The Koran is a book of religious beliefs. It may not be of my choosing but should still be respected as such.
ReplyDelete6. Joan Veras asks: How would you think american citizens would react and approach a mosque being built next to ground zero?
ReplyDeleteI would hope that the american citizens can find it within themselves to show class and respect in this situation. We as americans need to remember that we are the one's who feel disrespected by the idea and should show that here in the United States and as an American people we can still pull together and rise above the disrespect of others. I am very much against the whole idea but I have pride in being an American and I refuse to let anyone take that pride away from me.
Answering Y.Thalman question: "What good (if any) do you believe having an Islamic Center on ground zero bring? Why?"; I know my answer and thoughts about it, I don't think most of the American people will find any good in a mosque near ground zero, I know i don't, actually I believe it will bring more pain and hate than good, but that's of course according with my point of view, some others may find a good reason behind all this.
ReplyDeleteAnswering Joan Veras question: “How would you think American citizens would react and approach a mosque being built next to ground zero?”; there’s not a certain way to know that, I mean, we can predict what would happen but it wouldn’t be an absolute answer, we can only look inside our self and know how we will react, however, no men talks for an entire country, and someone feeling will outburst more than others.
1.) A cover of The Economist right after 9/11 declared: "The Day the World Changed", was the quote most significant to me as well as to many others because it had an impact in the lives of many people. "The Sept. 11 attacks, seen now with little perspective, shattered America's self image", is another quote that was very significant because I to believe that 9/11 is seen with little perspective as time goes by.
ReplyDelete2.) Although the article speaks of many different things at once, something that caught my attention was the building of a Mosque and Islamic center in ground zero. I was not for or against it but rather in between because many questions came to my mind. For example, isn't America supposed to be a "free country" and does not discriminate against religion or race? Why build a Mosque or Islamic center by ground zero when it is said that Muslims had the idea for the attack? And why are many Americans disagreeing with the idea, what if there were Muslims who worked in the WTC, do they not deserve some kind of respect also and people to mourn or lament for them as well? Maybe the many people who suffered the loss of a relative or friend in 9/11 would be in great disagreement and angry because of this decision but many others won't see a problem at all.
3.) I was unfamiliar with the article at first but after rereading it and with the discussion in class, it helped me understand more about the subject yet I was still a little confused and I feel the article needed more information on its main point so we can be able to grasp it better.
4.) Many Americans are angry about the decision taking upon in ground zero but what if the Mosque or Islamic center was build near another important building in New York City such as the Empire State Building for example, would they be as angry or is there just a rage because of the affects the WTC had on people.
1.“The Day the World Changed” this quote has been very significant to me because ever since 9/11 everything has changed. The society we live in today hasn’t only been affected economically but we have been affected mentally. Nothing is the same we can’t even walk down the street with out having what if questiones in our minds. It’s like we fear everyone and its like every man for them selves. Ever since 9/11 no one feels safe you don’t even no if the neighbor you’ve had for the past months or years is the person they seem to be. A pefect example to this may be holloween parents don’t feel safe letting there children gather candy from some strangers anymore they feel threaten and that our worst enemy can be hiding behind a mask. They even fear that the candies can have some sort of harmful substance in them which is why many parents perfer to keep the children in doors and buy them candy instead of them being exposed to the danger that they might be faced with.
ReplyDelete2.I was for this article because it touched basis on a little bit of everything. I talked about how different religions do different things for instance the burning of the Koran. The article even spoke about life struggles that we now suffer ever since 9/11 our house mortgages and even our market crashing. No one is guaranteed a tomorrow anymore at there jobs or even in there homes.
ReplyDelete3.Something that caught my eye in the article that I was unfamilar with was the burning of the holly Koran. I can’t picture anyone who is so willing to do such thing.
ReplyDelete4.Would Americans really feel safe with the idea of building a mosque near ground zero?
ReplyDeleteIn answer to Joan Veras question I think Americans are going to feel threaten with this idea. I don’t think there going to feel safe with the idea of having a whole community of Islamic people. I think the surveillance is going to be top notch around the area to try to make us feel safe but I think that would help.
ReplyDeleteIn response to Negdo Mesa I personally wouldn’t burn the ko0ran because it’s a holly book and I respect that. I would feel much disrespected if someone was to burn the bible me being the catholic that I am.
ReplyDelete1) "A Cover of The Economist right after 9/11 delared:"The Day the World Changed." This qoute was significant since its true how after that date, everything has changed.Now there are things that we can't do like bring food or certain liquids on planes. Its like to make us safe but then again, we feel scared because of so much protection so we dont know what can happen next.
ReplyDelete2) I can agree with the subject of the artical since i get why and how people can be angry at this. One is how they are building a mosque and a Islamic center in the vicinity of ground zero. To me that is like abit of disrespect because it almost like they wanna do that there on purpose to show they dont really care what happen there that day. For example, there were crosses outside the death camp put there by catholic protesters.They were offensive to jewish memory so all but one was eventually removed. Goes to show that its just a way that bad memory is bought back.
3)Some things that were unfamilar from the text was when they mentioned they would burn the koran. Thats just being very disrespetful and ignorant. I dont know why that would be a choie for someone to do.
4)My question is after the mosque is built,would there be a posibility Americans protest until it is removed or will the islamic people feel safe being there knowing some americans dislike that idea?
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-->> "The mosque project near ground zero upholds a great American principle, but it's not a sensible idea. Good sense is needed when a harvest of anger is in."
This quote was very significant to me because it does says that is not a sensible idea, but good sense is needed. I don't support the mosque but i am not against it. My reasons for this is that if someone has the legal right to do something then they should be allowed to do it. America is a country of laws not of rules. I do believe they have the legal and constitutional right to build the Mosque/Community center. I also believe that they should have a good sense by building further awat from Ground Zero as a sign of respect and tolerance for the feelings of those who were affected by 9/11. If we were in their country, they wouldn't like us to go there with our husband/wife and start kissing in the street, which is against their law. Same way we would respect them, they should respect us by being smart and have a good sense that they are being very disrespectful. I do also believe that a Mosque near Ground Zero is a great step forward for this nation. it will say to the world that we have move on, and we are ready to a step into a time of acceptance. Which what makes people come to this country is because of our freedoms. it is disrespectfuly, but the Muslims have the right to build whatever they want, they are allowed to woship as they please as long as they aren't breaking any laws. The Constituion guarantees freedom of religion. Also, it's their private property, so i think they do have the right to build thei community center.
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-->> "But Nor do I see the projects as a test of American religious freedoms."
I strongly disagree with this statement. I do think Muslims are trying to test American religious freedom, since people are always discriminating Muslims. This is all about hate, racism. Laws were changed but people haven't. Muslims are considered as hater, mean and with lots of anger. I do think that they are using their anger by building the ground zero mosque to test the american religious freedom. Now that those same Americans made it such a big deal and now its kind of a battle, i want the Muslims to show that they have the freedom to build it there no matter what. The whole situation could have been handled better on both sides. The constitution gives them the right to do so, but that doesn't mean it's the best thing to do. The point is, it doesn't matter what people think, it's what the constitution says, which it constantly proves that United States is a free country , a country with the freedom to be racist against Muslims. Muslims need to wake up, unite, and stop getting slurred by non-Muslim.
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-->> What i was unfamiliar with this text, is the fact that this article kept on talking about years ago, the Nazi, Europe, Jewish,etc... Besides focusing in the main point such as the building mosque. Also, we are living in 2010, not 1933. We are living in a new era, different age. I don't understand what Europe, Madrid and London's attacks have to do with building the mosque near ground zero. This has nothing to do with wars and struggles with other countries, it's all about Muslims trying to have their community center. We are in a free county, and i don't see anything wrong with building the mosque, there are no laws against it, they are not the ones who committed the crime, just a person with the same race that killed people in a building. We can't blame someone for a crime they did not commit. Americans aren't being so intelligent about this, there were Muslims killed in that building too, and a lot Americans are just being racist about them. We shall all know that United States is a free county.
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[#1 VONNY]
Q: My question is after the mosque is built,would there be a posibility Americans protest until it is removed or will the islamic people feel safe being there knowing some americans dislike that idea?
A: With all the contravery Its going to have protesters all the time the risk of vandalism, I suspect that they will be in the building in peace for years and except for a few conservative tourists pointing after leaving the 9\11 memorial .
[#2 JOAN VERAS]
Q: How would you think american citizens would react and approach a mosque being built next to ground zero?
A: Many Americans are angry about the decision taking upon in ground zero. Intelligent Americans do not have a problem with the cultural center being built.
5) Answearing jvaccaro: What makes it even a consideration for a major Islamic center to be put near ground zero? It's not that an effort about the consideration of building an islamic center near ground zero will affect the situation
ReplyDeleteor affect the environment isn't this a free coutnry and free liberty of expression. So,later I can say that it's not the meaning of the
center being build in the ground zero but, what the people have to say about it also that many people see it as an insult to them. Due to the fact that the two towers being build thier were of great symbolize the great unity of the country and the representation that they meant to this state of New York. So that's why they have the great american dream that tourist come to visit it's the great meaining of New York the true meainig of america the dream town that everybody come's to visit. That's why I think people make this such a big cotroversry on building it or not.
1."Terry Jones the pastor of a small church in Florida did well to heed history warnings."
ReplyDeleteIn this particular quote I researched Terry Jones. I encountered the fact that he too was going to burn Koran just like Gen. David Petraeus was. This is a significant quote to me because I too pay close attention to history and its warnings it provides us with. If we go back in time to history you would find out that this is our second war in Iraq! How the World Trade Center got attacked in the 90's! They even say that the Holy bible actually gave us warnings of the 9/11 attacks. An example of one is Isaiah 30:25 and more. History has a lot of affects on us today if you think about it.
2. Why is America now bitterly divided over plans to build a mosque and Islamic center in the immediate vicinity of ground zero?
The apprehension of this text in my affect is how a mosque is being suggested to be build at ground zero. I believe it’s wrong to build a mosque on ground zero. I think it’s not appropriate to build anything on ground zero. Even though it wasn’t the Islam religion that attacked us on 9/11. It was the Taliban’s and Al-Qaeda who attacked us. How this subject became aware to me was threw the news, and I even talked to some of my friends about this.
3".Europe, in Madrid and London, has also been attacked by Judaists.
This text I was unfamiliar with me because I never encountered with the word Jihads. It’s like a Muslim person with a task to create holy wars that are sacred to them. I was unfamiliar with the attacks on Madrid and London. I heard about a subway bombing but I don’t remember where. I realize reading this text that we are not the only country with terrorist problems.
Answering Joan Veras question : How would you think american citizens would react and approach a mosque being built next to ground zero?
ReplyDeleteIt's not how they will react to it but,on how they think it might affect thier so called environment everything that surrounds them might be put to discussion.They all live in thier own space and time limit and think that anythink that goes against thier morals might be bad to thier society they also think that a building built in ground zero might affect the true meaining of the twin tower's or the american's. It's like hitting them but, not to them but to their pride of being intergated people and symbolized person's. So like American's their's more of them in all the world so critic and judging other's and anything that might go angaist them and their belives of what truly the dream town might be. So it's an individula thing that has no right or wrong answear that many people have to say about it but, what my opion is that it's how we are the aspect of the person's counts the most and thier way to see life and other's. They should start worrying more about what the inside of country is already doing and has already and think if they to have something against them. So it's what the moral's of each has. So that's what I think about the approach of each has toward the building being built in ground zero.
4)Do you really think that 9/11 chaneged American's life? What makes us more prepared know then back then? What makes a country be prepared haveing weapons and the best tecnhology well that suerly didn't help when it happen.Don't you think?
ReplyDelete1) Well tha quote that I choose was: not just at airports where several billion shoes have been removed.
ReplyDeleteWell from personal experience I can say that althought they check you shoes or you like x-ray it's just not enought cause people that are smarter then them have still managed to get things in without them seeing it or detecting it.So thats why it has caught my eye that I can say I can relate to it from personal prospect. It has not done the work and had done the sufficent work to stop them.